overstaying shengen
Table of Contents
- 1. portugol specifically: https://old.reddit.com/r/travel/comments/qalolt/has_anyone_used_usaeu_bilateral_visa_agreements/ihu078l/?context=3
- 2. spain
- 3. italy
- 4. france
- 5. nordic bloc, norway and sweden, denmark https://www.tripadvisor.com.ph/ShowTopic-g190455-i550-k10843270-Do_You_Travel_Bilaterally_Bilateral_Visa_Agreements-Norway.html
- 6. overstaying penalties
- 7. TODO contact embassies.
- 8. being asked for proof at border when using bilateral agreement
official bilateral visa agreements (EU government)
https://old.reddit.com/r/travel/comments/sz12lv/guide_to_legally_stay_past_90_days_in_the/ https://old.reddit.com/r/solotravel/comments/xw9g2l/new_and_updated_guide_to_legally_stay_180_days_in/ https://old.reddit.com/r/digitalnomad/comments/10axkuk/2023_updated_staying_in_schengen_zone_legally/ great thread with lots of info, specifically email from french consulate “at discreiton of border agents”
1. portugol specifically: https://old.reddit.com/r/travel/comments/qalolt/has_anyone_used_usaeu_bilateral_visa_agreements/ihu078l/?context=3
consulate screenshot: https://freeimage.host/i/screenshot-2022-11-14-075504.y42VEJ
1.1. new law extending expired visas until end of 2023!
2. spain
4. france
had it in writing from french consulate, but said it was up to border agent discrestion also had it in writing, but didn’t try it nomadic matt blog, has original french agreement pdf new zealander succesfully used in france!
https://old.reddit.com/r/travel/comments/12bfu5q/does_anyone_have_experience_with_the_bilateral/
I worked very hard to figure out trying to do exactly this in France last summer. After months of phone calls, emails, and asking everyone I could think of, I ultimately decided it wasn’t worth the potential consequences. (Being banned from further EU travel, or at the least, troubles with border control throughout the EU later down the line). We ended up going to Croatia for part of the summer (although now that’s EU too), ended up with a great trip and left the EU on day 88. It is on the books but the border control agent you get on exit has full authority to say the Schengen rules overrule that, and if they do, you’re SOL with no opportunity to course correct.
5. nordic bloc, norway and sweden, denmark https://www.tripadvisor.com.ph/ShowTopic-g190455-i550-k10843270-Do_You_Travel_Bilaterally_Bilateral_Visa_Agreements-Norway.html
apparently all nordic countries in bilateral bloc
5.1. denmark specifically
canadian-denmark agreement but also applies to US
Canadian nationals who plan to take advantage of the bilateral agreement should note that they should not enter the Schengen region through Denmark or any of the Nordic countries. If they spend any amount of time in Denmark and/or the other Nordic countries in the first 90 days of their visa exempt period according to the Schengen agreement, they cannot claim the following 90 days visa exempt period for Denmark and the Nordic countries.
As passports will not be stamped when travelling between the Schengen countries, we highly recommend that documentation such as bus/train/flight tickets to Denmark as well as hotel receipts and anything else that can document the stay in Denmark and the Nordic countries, is kept handy in case the border police at the Schengen border will ask about the stay.
6. overstaying penalties
black stamp flying out of spain and italy chiller
many people, especially expats overstayed in spain and nothing happened. some risk
There were many cases in the Czech Republic of people (mainly Americans) being stopped for document inspection….then arrested and deported if the person had overstayed.
Passport checks, in out germany, train from sweden to denmark (according to louis)
7. TODO contact embassies.
8. being asked for proof at border when using bilateral agreement
Update 2: Hi all. I thought I would provide one final update on this one. I have successfully left Germany for a non-European country after spending 120 days in the Schengen zone and utilising the bilateral agreement between Germany and Australia. On my exit out of Germany I was asked a couple of questions about when I came to Germany and how long I have stayed but apart from that it was a completely smooth process. If anyone still has questions about how it all works or would like me to send them the information I received from the German consulate feel free to PM me.
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